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Just curious what you think the max Kratom per day should be?
I take about 6 grams at a time usually twice a day on a few occasions maybe three times but that is pretty rare. I guess I ask that because some where I read not to exceed 1 gram per day oh heck I sure exceed that.
I do have a big tolerance since... well as I mentioned usage above but one gram seems a bit of a small of an amount.
but that being said I don't think I could tolerate any more, the twice a day seems like the right amount for me
Pat
Hey goshawk 🤙
For me ....I think it all boiled down to your needs . What amount and frequency that best suits your needs !
12gms is low and respectable amount by many I’ve talked with on this subject .
I personally take 25-30gms per day , 4-5 servings throughout the day.
I’d say less the better, take the lowest amount that imparts the benefits your seeking and that amount is gonna differ for person to person.
There’s a lady on a diff forum who takes 1.5-2.5 gms 3x a day . And that’s the amount which delivers the best results for her chemistry. Having tried larger amounts previously but then cutting back dramatically early on, her amount per day is well under 10gms!!!!
I feel that as long as benefits are still getting delivered , and the goal to take the least amount to get there is the is part of the mission to getting relief ..... all good in the hood!! Listen to your body , and keep it low by your standards .
That said , I wouldn’t want to take more than what im already taking . Same as you 😎
Great thread Pat , I look forward to hearing other folks ideas on this topic .
@somethingsacred Thanks, that makes sense, actually I knew that but then I go and read this or that from here and there and start to doubt myself a bit. Its been a year and half since my big motorcycle accident and I started using Kratom regular and I feel pretty good on the routine I have developed with lots of adjustments till I feel its tweaked to the right level for my situation. I used Kraton recreational before the accident but that was more a couple time a week but I say that add to the fact that my experience with this leaf goes back 3 or 4 years so I just need to trust my judgement and be happy 🙂
Pat
Here is a link to an excellent post about dosage by one of the wise old timers on this forum.
Madmaxnightrider (Marcus)
https://www.ilk.co/community/kratom-discussion/is-it-possible-to-take-too-much#post-3920
Don
I thought this was interesting:
I came to the conclusion that 7 to 8 grams works best for Chronic pain, which matches the info in the post you put a link in for.
The high dose of 7 grams to 10 grams works best for overcome chronic pain.
this is a topic that changes for everyone.
First, nice to see the new digs. Hope everyone has been well.
I stay in the 2-3 mg range. If late, I’ve had an increase in back pain and a bit of a struggle with depression/anxiety. I’ve started doing 3 to 4 mg twice a day.
like everyone who has had addiction issues I worry about tolerance and dependence. Maybe too much so.
i find that if a cut way back, I have a tendency to want to pick up a bottle of wine to deal with anxiety and distract myself from worrying. I know better than that, but this has been a hard year for everyone. I can’t wait until spring and a little calm in our politics.
Ive been using Kratom for a couple years, and I have come to the conclusion I’m not prone to abusing it, so I need to relax on my fear of it.
On a positive note, I am off of all Zoloft for the last six months.
@gosawk try to remember that we are all unique in how and why we use Kratom, so it’s not a good idea to judge ourselves by what other people are doing.
KRATOM use for pain relief ALONE is a lot different than KRATOM use for full spectrum benefits like mood lift and energy. Especially when discontinuing medication once used for pain and adding KRATOM use instead.
Just like you noted, you used it differently for probably energized mood and not so much for pain relief prior to your motorcycle accident.
Life sure can change on a dime. KRATOM is remarkable in that it can help some of us with acute pain and those seeking relief from neuropathy symptoms can ALSO benefit. But the amounts and number of times of use per day can be very different.
The natural ceiling affect of KRATOM is also a very good tool to pay attention to.
For example, some days, I only seem to get partial relief from my symptoms and it’s not really enough to be all that productive. While I can take a larger amount, that usually is of NO HELP to me because the leaf can only do so much in a day with the other issues involved like sleep, diet, tasks at hand and other factors indicating overall metabolism.
My input here is exactly the same as what everyone else has posted. But it’s completely different!
Sounds like you are second guessing yourself. Perhaps a change has occurred in your life or routine and a change of your kratom use is warranted?
Kratom is unlike anything else on Earth. Each Individual will have to Experiment with the Best Strains & Dosages to find out what Works for them. I usually take around 3 - 4 grams for me. I probably take around 25 grams a day like Brandon. I take a bunch of smaller doses throughout the day. I found out that works best for me.
Usually around 4 - 5 grams is about the Average for the Daily Kratom User I would say but everybody is different. I would not take over 8 grams per dose because of side effects unless you are in severe pain then 10 grams would be the Max.
I would suggest using a Milligram Scale to measure out different dosages to see which dose has the best effects on you. Maybe try a little less than 6 grams & see if you get just as good a result & then keep going lower & lower if you can still get the same result with less. The Ultimate Goal is to find your Sweet Spot Dose so you can get the Ultimate Effects without taking too much Kratom & Wasting it.
You can also use Potentiators like Turmeric with Black Pepper, White Grapefruit Juice, Lemon Juice, Cayenne & Cat's Claw, Freezing Kratom with Lemon Juice for 30 Minutes.
I would suggest using a Milligram Scale to measure out different dosages to see which dose has the best effects on you.
That is one thing I do do, that is I always measure
I think it is good to be accurate with dosing.
Pat
Hey Max! Great post!
I seem to be the only person that does not get any benefits from potentiators. Not even a good placebo effect buzz! But I happen to love and support their use. I find the only thing that affects my kratom use is eating food, especially carbs. Even the grapefruits I eat every day are effective at making the kratom I have used so far, instantly ineffective. I no longer wait very long after eating to reuse kratom. Sometimes I take a few capsules with my meal! But I’ve gotten the wobbles that way a few times and instead just have my regular amount with a beverage immediately following food so I don’t have to be very uncomfortable for long. Each time I eat, I am reminded of the tremendous benefits I am getting from kratom use - still!
Madmax has offered some of the better editorials on the topic. My follow up is merely my personal experience as of TODAY. I often post my personal experience BECAUSE it evolves over time and my personal experience posted last year may or may not be applicable. You simply should not get lazy with your kratom relationship or it will not be as helpful as it COULD BE. TODAY.
I am attaching a photo of our nearby sunset a couple of weeks ago. @somethingsacred Brandon and I live in the same town!
We have kratom, cats and sunset appreciation in common!
I am taking 5-6 grams 3x a day for chronic pain, using turmeric and black pepper as a potentiator. Before that, I was taking 6 grams 4x a day, so the turmeric/black pepper have definitely made the kratom benefits last longer. As people have already mentioned, I think those who are dealing with strong chronic pain typically take more per day than those just looking for a mood or energy lift.
i agree, that tends to be the case for many . My sweetheart takes kratom for energy , does not have chronic pain ....takes very small doses (compared to me lol) approx 1.5-2 gms. But she take it more frequently than i do ... every 2 hrs . Whereas I take 4.5-5.5 gm every 4-5 hrs for chronic neck/ back pain ... as well as keeping depression and anxiety in check.the longer I wait in between servings the better results . I still have some nice surprises from taking only half my dose ...2.5 gms ... every day is a bit diff but happy to report , benefits received are on point majority of the time .
Thx for sharing @benhemp, happy you found the new site 👍
