Kratom for pain relief of pets?
My friends dog was on carprofen prescribed by a vet for inflammation and pain relief. He recently started vomiting and not eating. Does anyone know if kratom is safe for dogs? If so, how much and how to administer?
Many people use kratom on their dogs. I would use a dose relative to the size of the dog.
I was going to write an article about this for NaturalNews this week, so I got comments from a bunch of people who give kratom to their dogs, cats, and one rabbit who is afraid of loud noises.
They cook the kratom into a scrambled egg for the dog, or wrap it in peanut butter or ground beef (and cook it).
Thank you, this is great to know. Could you elaborate on dosage? I'm confused about how much to give my dogs.
No, I really can't. It's not an exact science any more than dosing a human is. Be conservative. You don't want the dog projectile vomiting on the living room carpet, after all.
I don't know how big the dog is. I would give the dog roughly proportional, per pound, as we take. If you take a teaspoon dose and the dog weighs one-fifth what you weigh, then give him/her one-fifth of a tsp. It shouldn't take much.
Thank you. I have cocker spaniel and a large pit bull, so I'll figure it out.
Thank you for your help.
Hi, my name is Leanne Roberts. I am a vet tech, worked with animals 18 years now. When researching kratom for pain in dogs, your response on the ilovekratom forum is one of the only things i have found. Kratom personally saved my life. I have several herniated discs, Spondylosis, and more. I got hurt 3 years ago, at work with dogs, and became disabled. At my worst i was in a wheelchair. As i said, kratom saved me. Ive been through it all, physical therapy, pain management, tens units, you name it. I had spent over $20 grand on every supplement in the world for myself, to no avail. With animals, i was actually a nutrition and natural health alternative medicine consultant. I applied every ounce of my knowledge to myself, and nothing helped me. Then this year i discovered kratom. I have my life back. I literally had NO quality of life. Back to dogs. One of my dogs is a Newfoundland. I originally got him to be a mobility assistance dog for myself. But as luck would have it, he has newfoundland forelimb anamoly, OCD lesions in both elbows. At 7 months old, he had to have extensive surgery by one of the only specialists in the world that could do it, or be put down. I of course chose my beloved dog. He is now 2, and is on every medication under the sun for pain. Anti-inflammatories Previcox, Tramadol, and a nerve pain medication. At best he is still beyond special needs. Since i know just how much kratom does for me, im trying desperately to find ANY info regarding its use in pets. It need not be from a professional, im not going to hold anyone liable for problems. I just need to know that it is safe to try on him. Your response at:
Is one of the only things i have found internet wide while searching. I was wondering if you could PLEASE give me any information you have regarding its use in pets. I just saw you are a moderator on the site, therefore i assume you are an intelligent and responsible person. Do you have any information that would be of help to me? Any resources links articles etc?
I would like to thank you so very much for your time and consideration in this matter.
Oh as i stated Ernie is a Newfoundland dog, approximately 130 pounds. Ive tried every supplement in the world on him, from glucosamine chondroitin, msm, hylauronic acid, turmeric, fish oil, coconut oil, boswellia, yucca, ester-c, tart cherries, shark cartilage, collagen, probiotics, superfood supplements of all kinds. Homeopathic meds, aromatherapy, physical therapy, there is nothing i wont do for him. He did the best when he was on a raw diey, but my fiance is unable to maintain that financially for him at this time (we have 21 month old twins!), but i am going to try and return him to his raw diet as soon as i can. But without it, and the fact we had to return to our previous home that has stairs in it (that we specifically moved out of for Ernies health), his pain level has increased. I would truly appreciate any guidance from you or anyone with ANY knowledge regarding kratoms use in pets.
Thank you so very much!
Oh attached is a picture of Lil Ernie Jr post-surgery at 7 months old and less than half his current body weight. He is now 2 yeara old. We were told 5 years from him is optimistic. I just want him to have the best life, with his pain at an absolute minimum. And i believe Kratom is the key, i just need more info. My biggest question, its not toxic to pets, correct? I am aware that, just as in humans, too much can cause nausea and vomitting. Side effects are expected and dosing will be closely monitered to find what is best for him. I just want to be sure no one has ever seen ADVERSE side effects in pets, ie death.
Thank you all again,
Leanne & Lil Ernie (Hes not little lol)
Funny, that is the main reason I joined this forum. That and I believe kratom can be utilized as a possible bio hacking agent paired with nootropics in some stacks.
But yeah, back to what you are talking about and how it relates to me. So, my dog has been in some serious joint, specifically hip pain for over 2 years now ( takes 100mg of tramadol daily) and it takes everything in her to stand up to go outside and even take a piss. It saddens me to no end and recently her condition has gotten worse.
I don't know if kratom can do any good for canines, but I am curious too.
There is a time and place for everything. This is not the time...where am I?
This is very interesting. I can understand the love you have for your dogs and how much you want to help them. I have 3. Please report back any findings or trials you conduct.
One thing I would be cautious of, and I'm sure you've already thought of this, is the constipation that Kratom can cause.
In my study of kratom over the past 4 years, I have met many people who give kratom to their dogs and it causes no problems that I've heard.
One veterinarian agreed that kratom does not cause problems for dogs, but (for some reason) he thought it would for cats. I have heard anecdotal evidence that it works for cats, also, but would like more confirmation of that.
Hope this helps your dog. I would be moderate in the dosing, very much on a per-pound basis, as in humans.
Hi, Leanne, I hope you got my email reply. I stick with what I said a year ago and have seen more confirmation that people are using kratom successfully with their dogs. I even gave some Bentuangie to a neighbor and I could see a visible improvement in the dog's ability to walk w/o pain.
Interesting idea. Hope it really helps. Maybe researches should get some results from dogs too, not just lab rats 🙂
Interesting, I gave some to my rabbit
Awww....get those,pill pockets for pets, and pack them with kratom. Probably, wet it a bit. It's a plant so it should be ok.
ChronicP, I had a similar problem as your friend. An old, very arthritic stray my daughter rescued was in so much pain that I thought we'd probably have to euthanize him. He could barely get up to go to the bathroom and would just pee on the floor right next to his bed. The vet put him on the minimum dose of Previcox, a NSAID like carprofen, and it was like a miracle. He improved enough to go up and down stairs and even go for walks. But 8 months later, he started having abnormal kidney labs, and the vet said we'd have to discontinue the Previcox. I have a friend who uses Kratom for severe osteoarthritis (and fibromyalgia and chronic back pain due to herniated discs) and she suggested trying Kratom. He weighs 71 lbs so I gave him 1/2 teaspoon and an hour later he was able to go for a walk! It seemed to work as well as Previcox, but only lasted about 8 1/2 hours instead of most of the day. Still, I'm very pleased to have an alternative to the Previcox. I read about the possible constipation problems with Kratom, but Clem hasn't had any issues with that yet. Hopefully he won't because I give him plenty of probiotics, fish oil, and gentle exercise every day. Oh, and on the last visit, his kidney labs were almost normal. The vet said I could start giving him Previcox again ($145 per month) but we'd need to get him NSAID profiles every 6 to 8 weeks for $77. I'm going to stick with the Kratom unless he starts having any bad effects from it. I'll try to come back and update this post to let you dog folks know how it's working and if any problems arise.
One other note, if you have an arthritic dog you also might want to try Adequan in conjunction with whatever else you're doing. It's an injectable glucosamine-type treatment that can actually repair joint cartilage. Expensive the first month, but then you can cut back from 2-3 times per week to as little as once a month. If you inject it yourself, you can save quite a bit, as well. It can be given in conjunction with other treatments like Kratom or Previcox because it works in a totally different way. Good luck!
Our lovely Clem: