My Kratom arrived today, I mixed 2 together & I need some advice
Hi there. My name is Shelly. My Kratom came today and I just took some Horned Leaf Meang Da. I took 4 Grams and 1 Gram of Pure Energy Blend that I ordered from Greenleafkratom.com. It's been about 45 minutes and I feel a little different but nervous because I don't know a lot about Kratom. I've done some research but I still feel normal. I am trying to get off of narcotic pain medicine (Hydrocodone 10's) I love the way they made me feel to I kept taking them even though I could have gone without. I'm going through severe withdrawl from the opiates and I heard that Kratom is a miracle when it comes to that. I also heard that it can mimic the good euphoric effects of Norco. Is this true?? Does anyone have any recommendations or advice?? Especially on what strands would be good for me and dosage?
I FEEL SO LOST!!! PLEASE HELP!! 🙁
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ANYONE'S RESPONSE (L)
Hello shellydunlap and welcome to the forum! You're correct that kratom will help you fight the withdrawal symptoms. Each person is a little different though in which strain and how much to take.
Most people say the red strains help the most with them as they help you relax and usually help you sleep. Even with the reds you will have to experiment some to find out what you're needs are.
Depending on how long you've been using opiates and what your tolerance is, you will likely have to take more than 4 grams to start feeling like yourself again. You should try going up 2 grams after 45 minutes to an hour goes by and you're still not feeling better.
I wouldn't say kratom is like taking Norco, however kratom stimulates some of the same receptors and yours are likely suffering from the long term opiates.
Myself and many others here have been in your shoes and it will get better. The key is experimenting with different strains and adjusting your dosage until you get the results you want. Usually with kratom less is more so try and hang in there.
Also, a measuring teaspoon is approximately 2 grams if that helps.
Good luck and let us know how you're doing
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Hi Shelly, msolis gave you great advice. There are very many good types of kratom you can buy, and a lot of good vendors. Try out several different kinds because they will all have different effects to some extent. You may find some will make you feel better than others. Reds do generally make you more sedated/relaxed than whites or greens, but I've gotten relaxed from all kinds. I've noticed a lot of yellow strains will make me relaxed also. Don't fall prey to extracts, in my opinion they are overpriced and put you on the wrong track tolerance wise. Plain leaf is the way to go. When I was getting off pills I used large doses. Do what msolis said, "if your not feeling it in 45 min to an hour, take a couple more grams" and you'll find your sweet spot. You will get off pills soon enough, kratom makes me feel better than hydros ever did, in a healthier way.
Thanks cybin and I agree totally about keeping away from the extracts and all the gimics out there. Plain leaf is certainly my favorite and like cybin said, it will only raise your tolerances and make it harder to get the end results you need.
Funny he mentioned gold strains too, I haven't read a whole lot about the gold strains but decided to try one during my review with ecbotanicals and man! I am sold on it. They have a bali gold that has done far more than reds for me and it's very smooth but all their strains are. I would definitely suggest giving them a try on your search for great vendors. Right now, searching for vendors may seems like a drag but once you get going you will enjoy experimenting. Good luck!
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I really appreciate the advice! Thank you very much. SO what is the best way to take Kratom? I'm considering ordering Maeng Da, Green Malay & Premium Commercial Bali from Kratora because I don't feel much effect at all from the other site I ordered from. Kratora isn't on the Vendor list but my friend told me about them. The WD is getting worse so I want to make a decision soon. Thanks again!
Ecbotanicals? Is that a vendor? Where you tried the Golds from? If that was the vendor you were recommending, do they have a website. I may be confused on what you were trying to say lol my bad if that's the case. I need to order something ASAP before this gets worse :ohmy:
Yes easterncarolinabotanicals.com is their site and you can just enter speciosa in the search bar and that will pull everything up. You should try some reds like red Thai or red borneo and also green malay is always a good one.
You should try getting a sample package of a few different strains that way you can decide. Any of the approved vendors listed here would be a great choice. Pharmacy dropout, socal, online kratom, all are top notch vendors.
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Hey Shelly Welcome to the ILK Forum. As you can see people here are very willing to help you out. Excellent Advice msolis & cybin. You have to remember that Kratom is never going to give you the feeling of Norco. Kratom is more subtle & mild. I would compare Kratom to taking coffee. Don't think that Kratom is going to get you high like Opioid Pain Pills will because it won't but Kratom will definitely make you feel better overall.
I would compare taking Kratom to as if you just got through jogging for 30 minutes or after a workout. You know that Natural Release of Endorphins that you get after you've been working out for awhile. That's how I see it anyway. Kratom is NOT a Legal High. I just wish the Government would Stop trying to Ban It everywhere.
Greenleaf Kratom in my opinion has some of the Best Kratom that you can buy these days but just too expensive for me. All of the Approved Vendors here are Great. I Highly Recommend SoCal Herbal Remedies & Pharmacy Dropout to anyone. Other good cheap Vendors are Blue Ridge Herbal Supply, buy-kratom.us & PA Botanicals. Another Excellent Vendor that I've been hearing about is Life Force Kratom. Other Expensive Vendors that are Great are MMMSpeciosa & Kratom Trading Company.
I would just add always take your Kratom Powder on an empty stomach & try different dosages each time to find your Sweet Spot Dose where Kratom will work the Best for you. There are also Potentiators to make Kratom Stronger & last longer like Magnesium, Vitamin C, Turmeric, St. John's Wart, White Grapefruit Juice & many more but I would just take it slow with the Kratom because you can become Overwhelmed with the amount of Information that is out there right now about Kratom. I am still Learning New Things about Kratom all the Time. If you ever have any Questions just PM me. Good Luck Shelly!
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Welcome to ILK Shelly! I'm on day 4 of Kratom use, and my wd's are non existent. I have only ordered from Pharmacy Dropout, and so far I'm very pleased. I have they're Plantation grown Malaysian red horn, which has helped me sleep through the night without waking up sick. 2-3 tsps before bed, and I sleep like a baby, however at a lower amount it still calms, and relaxes without sedation. During the day I've been using they're White horned Kalimantan MD. It gives a nice lasting focused energy, pain relief, and keeps the wd's away. For me less is definitely more, but everyone is different, so some trial and error will help you find what works.
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The best way to take kratom more depends on what will work better for you. Capsules is one way, buy some empty capsules and fill them up yourself. Toss and wash, which is the way many people take kratom, basically put some powder in your mouth and drink something to wash it down. Mix it with something like orange juice (in a bottle) shake it up really good and drink it down. You could make tea with it. There are some other methods also, those typically are the main ones. I usually just use capsules, some days I will mix it with orange juice. Try some out and see what you like.
Welcome to ILK Shelly!
My name's Michael and I'm one of the mods of the ILK Forum. I'm an e-mail away if you have any questions or concerns regarding the site.
As you can see, anything you post is going to get a great response from one of our many users. We have got to have the best Kratom community on the net!
My advice to you would be to try Bali or Borneo strains. From my personal experience and through hearing countless testimonials, it seems to me that Maeng Da strains are better for mood stimulation and energy while Borneo strains are more "euphoric." Mixing red and white or red and green is also reported to be very good for WD symptoms, so you should give that a try in your journey as well. Hope that helps.
Hey Shelly :-h
Welcome to ILK! As you see, everyone here is awesome and loves providing advice. As vendors we can only be involved so much, but I love to learn from everyone on here on an almost daily basis by simply taking what I can from the posts. There's so much to find out about Kratom!
Anyways, enjoy the forum B)